Correct Details?

June 18, 2008 at 10:55 am | In Thailand | Leave a Comment
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I have searched through the JSU Website for a few of the answers to questions I had.  Although there wasmuch conflicting information available, I am using the JSU undergraduate catalog for the ‘latest’ details.  Of course the current catalog (2007-2009) does not reflect the increases in tuition that are expected for the Fall of 2007.  Please take a moment to review and either confirm or refute (with corrections) these details. 

Dr. Kelley (MCIS department chair) has been doing quite a bit of legwork for me over the past week to find answers to the information that ABAC was seeking.  One item that he has spoken to Dr. Ketterer (executive director of the International House, International Programs) about is a student exchange program with free tuition and room & board that is based on 1:1 reciprocity in which one exchange student from ABAC replaces a student from ABAC.  In essence, a Thai student would receive one of the International House scholarships while a JSU student would have tuition and accommodations secured to study in Thailand for a year.  Dr. Kelley reported that there were similar agreements currently in place with other universities in France and Morocco and that it would “probably be approved”.  This is a terrific development that I do hopes come to fruition as this could be a good starting point to kick off any partnership with ABAC.  Of course there are some questions that I have, like when is the earliest for this reciprocal exchange to occur?  Further, if given ‘free tuition’ by JSU (and vice versa), would the Thai student still pay tuition expenses at ABAC for their duration?  Or even further, if a JSU student wants to study at ABAC (or vice versa) without a scholarship offer, do they pay JSU or ABAC tuition rates … or both?

Useful statistics about Jacksonville State University (JSU)

  • Cost of living in Alabama is over 21% lower than the US average
  • The median (in-state) tuition rate (15 credits, 1 year) among US universities: US$16,245 (536,285 Thai Baht)
  • The (in-state) tuition for JSU (15 credits, 1 year): US$10,140 (334,620 Thai Baht)

Expenses for International Students

  • JSU Undergraduate Tuition (out-of-state): US$380/credit hour (12,540 Thai Baht)
  • JSU Graduate Tuition (out-of-state): US$500/credit hour (16,500 Thai Baht)
  • JSU Undergraduate Distance Learning: US$240/credit hour (7,920 Thai Baht)
  • JSU Graduate Distance Learning: US$300/credit hour (9,900 Thai Baht)
  • JSU health insurance policy per semester: US$285 (9,405 Thai Baht)
  • Cost for room per semester: US$1030 (33,990 Thai Baht)
  • Cost for meal plan per semesester: US$980 (32,340 Thai Baht)

Currency exchange rate: Thai Baht 33 = US$ 1

JSU 2008-2009 Academic Calendar Key Dates

  • Fall Semester 2008: Begins August 28, Ends December 16
  • Spring Semester 2009: Begins January 8, Ends April 28
  • May Term 2009: Begins May 6, Ends June 3
  • Summer I 2009: Begins June 8, Ends July 2
  • Summer II 2009: Begins July 8, Ends August 4

Sources

IBM Welcome – Second Call For Help

June 16, 2008 at 4:00 am | In Thailand | Leave a Comment
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I attended the welcome ceremony for the incoming class of undergraduate International Business Management (IBM) students yesterday morning.  This was a group of around 100 junior students that were just admitted to the program this semester and are considered the “best-of-the-best” students at ABAC as to gain admittance to this program, there is the highest GPA requirement of all programs at ABAC – I believe 2.75.  Incidentally, the average GPA of all IBM students is 3.0 and the average GPA of the class that was just admitted is 3.4 – the highest GPA’s of any degree program at ABAC.  While at this ceremony, there were several presentations made by faculty members and by a IBM student organization that organized the entire event that highlighted the requirements (curriculum options) and expectations of the students.  They also highlighted the success that their students have had participating in dozens of national and international team competitions over the past year.  I was firstly amazed that there were so many competitions out there and also impressed by the fact that the ABAC students always finished in the top 3 in each of these competitions, winning prizes in excess of $5,000 in many of these challenges.  There was also a panel discussion consisting of four recent IBM graduates to have them talk about how they each have achieved success so soon after graduation (e.g., working for top consulting firm Deloitte, management trainee responsible for over 100 staff or over $30 Million in accounts, etc.).  A point of emphasis throughout this morning session (from 9:00am – 12:00pm noon) was on the importance of case-based learning (e.g., how it directly helped them in student competitions, in job interviews, and in their current jobs), particularly that of evaluating Harvard Business Cases in the IBM curriculum.  The IBM chair mentioned to me briefly that this was done intentionally as the IBM curriculum has recently shifted to emphasising more cases in each of their classes which has been met with some resistance from students due to the additional costs involved and not seeing the value of those cases.  I did not stay for the afternoon session after the lunch break since it was focused purely on team building exercises, but I did leave impressed by how strong the students of this program appeared to be.  Another thing that I was able to extract is that the goal of nearly all of the Thai students is to start their own business.  This is something that the IBM chair commented to me on after so many students mentioned this as either their short-term or long-term goal.  The IBM chair, who is Indian, contrasted this with Indian students who primarily want to find a job and advance within the organization.  In trying to contrast with American students, I mentioned that our students typically look for an interesting or “fun” career that will give them independence.  I don’t know if that is an accurate representation of the majority of American students, but starting your own business likely isn’t that high up as it is with Thai students.

I was invited to the IBM welcome by the IBM chair that I had discussions with in the past week about establishing a relationship between ABAC and JSU.  Specifically, I was invited to give a 15 minute presentation, with PowerPoint slides, about JSU and the possible benefits of student exchanges.  I was scheduled to go on just after the IBM faculty were each introduced and just before the panel session, but since they were running short on time, I was asked to only take about 5 minutes at 11:00am.  I scrapped the slides and spoke of why I was at ABAC this semester and the benefits I was able to get teaching in another part of the world and being able to better understand a culture by experiencing it first-hand than by just reading about it in a textbook or seeing it on TV.  This tied in well with the presentation that the president of ABAC gave a few minutes earlier when he spoke that in order to do business successfully in different countries (e.g., with China, Japan, Australia, Russia – all of whom were students represented in the room) that you had to understand those cultures.  I then spoke about JSU and where it was located, highlighting the local businesses that my students had done projects for in my class over the past year, but also mentioned companies located in Atlanta (e.g., CNN, Coke, etc.), which were brand names that they all knew and recognized, while only a handful said that they knew were Alabama was located in the US.  I finally spoke about some of the distinctions of our programs (e.g., business school included in the Princeton Review, AACSB International, ABET accreditation) but tempered that with noting that JSU is often recognized as the “Friendliest Campus in the South”, which I then elaborated on.  I spoke of how when Dr. Ford walked me around through campus during my campus visit, he knew so many of his students by first name.  I also spoke of how so many of the students walk around on campus wearing JSU apparel.  And finally, I spoke of how generally nice people are in the South (e.g., wave “hello” at all passing cars and greeting someone with a great big “hey y’all”) and how each of these things is not common at universities in America (or at least the few dozen that I have either attended or spent time at in the past 10 years).  I felt that with the short amount of time that I had, this type of message might have had the most impact on the students.  I returned to my seat next to the IBM chair after my talk and she rather excitedly told me that I was the “right person to give that speech”, which got my spirits up.  I stuck around for the first half of lunch as a few students wanted to know more about JSU, which made me regret not mentioned or directing students to our Website (www.JSU.edu) during my talk.  I am sure there will be about a dozen other things I will think of in the next day or so that I should have said, but it certainly was a learning experience.

Before I left, the IBM chair still seemed quite interested in working on a partnership with JSU.  She had told me that the dean of the undergraduate business school was also eager to meet with me and that she had thought about including someone from the registrar’s office as well at our next meeting.  That being said, she wanted to know when we could schedule it.  Yikes!  I am still trying to crunch numbers and I am so hoping to hear back from many of you about the questions I had from my previous post.  I thank those of you that have already responded, but I really can’t schedule a meeting yet to further our talks until I have more information (e.g., what time of year a ‘group trip’ would work best, if campus housing would be available for such a trip, if the business school in interested in getting involved in the partnership, if JSU is willing to offer a seat in the international house for an ABAC student, if so, what would the conditions be, any idea on expenses like tuition, room and board, cost to organize industry visits, etc.).  I am really desperate for any help that anyone could provide and I am very appreciative knowing that for many of you at JSU this is the “off” time during the summer months.

Action – Help Needed

June 11, 2008 at 7:00 am | In Thailand | Leave a Comment
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I was finally able to meet one of the chairs from the undergraduate business school to discuss potential partnerships with JSUthis morning after our original meeting was canceled (death in the family) and attempting to coordinate schedules.  I ended up meeting for about an hour with Mrs. Radha Sirianukul, the chairperson of the department of international business management (IBM), along with the director of international affairs in his office.  She seemed very interested as well in whatever type of relationship that JSU would be willing to pursue.  I suggested that it may make sense to start off slow with student and/or faculty exchanges, and then in the next year(s) that we can evaluate its success and discuss enhancing the relationship with other arrangements, such as with joint programs/degrees.  One of the things that became clear early in the meeting is the need for specific details regarding the programs at JSU.  I had already shared with Mrs. Radha the JSU college of commerce and business administration as well as the MCIS department’scurriculum listings to compare with ABAC’s IBM program (ABAC has over 9,000 undergraduate business students), but there were other details related to costs that I will need to provide that will help in future discussions.  Costs are obviously a prohibiting factor for students from Thailand (but very good exchange rates for JSU students) so I need to provide ballpark estimateson details such as the cost per credit hour, accommodation expenses, and living expenses.  If I can get these figures along with comparisons from other US universities (to show how much more affordable a JSU education would be), that could go a long way in selling our program to both the administrators and students of ABAC.  From the JSU Website, there are varying numbers out there, so I would appreciate any assistance in tracking this information down.  If you have ideas for other information that would be useful to share, please let me know.  Corresponding statistics from ABAC are also being compiled by Mrs. Radha and I will share those once I get them.

In other discussions, one possibility that the chair seemed very interested in was in hosting some sort of “academic exchange with industrial exposure”.  This would be a group tour of several students that would visit JSU for a two-week stay and involve them attending JSU classes, JSU research presentations, industry-guest presentations, and tours of local businesses (either around JSU or in Birmingham and Atlanta).  I imagine these events could be coordinated with other JSU campus events (e.g., guest lectures) and/or student organizations (e.g., tours of local industry, tours with other international students).  The benefit from ABAC’s perspective is that this would offer a low-cost alternative to year-long exchanges and could be a good starting point to initiating the relationship between JSU and ABAC as well as get a good “buzz” about future students traveling to study at JSU.  This would also work good for ABAC as this could be either offered either as a separate 1-credit course (a seminar in international business) or as part of a midterm project for an international business course.  All undergraduate ABAC business majors are required to conduct individual research as part of their degree and a research paper discussing this “academic exchange with industrial exposure” could satisfy part of that requirement.  Some some key questions that resulted from this exchange, again, were what costs would be involved with operating this type of exchange?  Is it possible to secure student housing on-campus for a group of students or is this type of exchange even of interest to JSU?  What time of year would this be best to conduct this academic exchange?  ABAC has school all-year long, so I suspect the best time for JSU to host such an exchange would be in the summer (June-August) when it might be much easier to secure student housing and when faculty (like myself) are likely to have open schedules to conduct and participate.  The first semester (of a trimester) for ABAC runs from the end of May until the beginning of September.

Continuing our discussion about exchanges, the director of international affairs brought up the relationship that ABAC has with Loyola College of Maryland and how the partnership has been in place for 18 years now.  The director mentioned that Loyola College sends a large group every year to study at ABAC and how their students have had nothing but positive experiences during their time here.  A partnership that ABAC has with Loyola College is that they offer about 15-20 Loyola College graduates from undergraduate programs like in English and Psychology as well as MBA students to teach at ABAC for 1 year with free room and board, round-trip airfare expenses, and a salary (similar to my current arrangement).  If this is of interest to JSU, ABAC might be willing to extend these opportunities to JSU graduates.  I would like to know your thoughts on this type of partnership and if this type of arrangement is worth pursing.  I had the time to finally to visit ABAC’s undergraduate campus (Bang Na) last week and I was simply amazed by both its luxury and beauty; here are some pictures that I found online of the campus.  I figure that this could be something of interest to see for JSU students or faculty members that are willing to visit there. 

The director of international affairs also remembered from our initial meeting how JSU might be willing to discuss offering a place at the international house for one of their students.  He suggested that this could be a great “starter” to initiate a partnership with JSU and that as part of such a student exchange, either for a semester or a year, the student could return to ABAC and give a seminar to talk about their experience and could be a driver for additional students taking classes at JSU.  I did remind the director that I was not in a position to grant such a request, but that it is possibility that might be available if discussions continue to progress.  With that in mind (perhaps this is something that Dr. Ketterer could best address), what is the likelihood (strong, mild, weak) that JSU would be willing to offer a place at the international house for an ABAC student, and if so, what would be the value of such an offer (in terms of dollars – to demonstrate JSU’s commitment), for how long (a semester, a year, or two students for a semester each), and when (spring 2009, fall 2009) could this be possible? 

We finished the meeting agreeing to meet again once we got more detailed information regarding our programs and possible partnerships.  Mrs. Radha told me that she would also approach the other chairs at the undergraduate business school as well as the dean to discuss possible partnerships with JSU.  Mrs. Radha also invited me to speak about JSU and the possibility of exchanges to the incoming freshman class of business students this Sunday, which I agreed to do.  I was quite excited to get this offer because this could be a great opportunity for me to market JSU and its programs to a large group of ABAC students that could be prospective exchange students.  So some final questions, is there any specific information that I should convey to the students of ABAC?  I plan on discussing where JSU is located as well as specifics about the MCIS program – a presentation that have have given to countless high school students to several area high schools in JSU’s proximity.  What should I mention about the JSU business school?  Finally, is there any specific information that you would like to know about ABAC that I can request Mrs. Radha to obtain?

I really would appreciate any help or suggestions that you would have as ABAC does seem quite interested in establishing a relationship with JSU and I would like to get as much as I can done during the rest of my time here in Thailand.

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